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Solid Snake 88
 Junior Member Posts: 33 |
 posted 10-01-2000 04:41 PM    
Dear God, I actually like Nintendo but this is just low. Has anyone seen the latest edition on Nintendo Power? I quote: quote:This has to be the most pathetic, blatant lie I have ever heard. Other developers showed cool demos of Metal Gear Solid 2, TTT, and Gran Turismo 2000, instead of Link cross-dressing. C'mon Nintendo. ------------------
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OHMYGOD
Member Posts: 127 |
posted 10-01-2000 04:41 PM
 
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thy_toothpick
Senior Member Posts: 582 |
posted 10-01-2000 04:49 PM
I believe they were talking about Sony/Nintendo/Sega/Microsoft - not 2nd/3rd parties. Didn't Sony do a rubber ducky tech demo? What they're saying is when Sony and MS unveiled their systems, they showed "useless" tech demo's. On the other hand, Nintendo unveiled its system with tech demo's using games - no butterflies here. They had demo's of star wars, zelda, luigi's mansion, metroid, wave race, etc... what they might look like. Were you around during the SNES - Genesis era? Do you remember some of those commercials?
In most cases, the only reasons people have subscriptions to it are for demo's (DKC tape). [This message has been edited by thy_toothpick (edited 10-01-2000).]
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Huddy
Member Posts: 128 |
posted 10-01-2000 05:00 PM 
good lord. I remember when I got a Nintendo Power t-shirt for winning 3rd place in the monthly drawing. In fact, I wanted to work for them when I was a kid. Now I have very little respect for them. Thy is right, NP is very slanted in its reviews/columns etc. Why?? Cuz they're Nintendo and they can be. However, mocking the other systems just because they showed off "tech" demos... I mean c'mon, thats just ridiculous. Sure they had game demos up and running on the NGC, thats because its been in development for what... 3 damn years?? Sony has been working on the PS2 for about 1yr 3/4... if 2 years. just funny to me... thats all. -huddy- ------------------
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hyper
Junior Member Posts: 28 |
posted 10-01-2000 04:56 PM 
Thy_toothpick just about summed up everything there. I love the way Nintendo manipulates words to get people all roudy and pissed. 
Of course, that can also result in a lot of bumming and bashing. Damn you Nintendo!!
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Solid Snake 88
Junior Member Posts: 33 |
posted 10-01-2000 05:01 PM
The only reason I read NPower is for the Pokemon info and the compititions. And yes, they are VERY biased. ------------------ [This message has been edited by Solid Snake 88 (edited 10-01-2000).]
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hyper
Junior Member Posts: 28 |
posted 10-01-2000 05:05 PM
I know!! They even gave Superman a descent review...
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thy_toothpick
Senior Member Posts: 582 |
posted 10-01-2000 05:10 PM
Nintendo is doing what every company does - making their product(s) seem better than the competition. Making subtle shots at the competition. Besides, of course N-Power magazine is biased! Its Nintendo's official magazine! They pretty much can't give games a bad review, because that would be hurting sells. They pretty much give some info and some screens. If the game sucks, they don't tell them...
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Zenogias
Senior Member Posts: 355 |
posted 10-01-2000 05:31 PM I still don't think that's worse than what Trip Hawkins said about the PS2: "It's historic, a mass-market appliance that fundamentally changes society in the same way the printing press did." Cripes, he makes it out to be something we'll be reading about in history books 50 years from now, and has the audacity to compare it to the PRINTING PRESS. I *like* the PS2, but that statement is just so absurd it boggles the mind. -Zenogias
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SWEETLEAF
Member Posts: 157 |
posted 10-01-2000 05:40 PM
I still think the basis of the remarks is to appeal to a younger generation. For a machine to have dvd playback appeals to the older crowd- most kids could care less. And since all the other consoles have a kinda do it all aura the only way to be different is to be do only one thing console.Nothing wrong with that. ------------------
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PSX Junkie
Posts: 1057 |
posted 10-01-2000 05:50 PM
quote: Um, please dont ever talk to me.
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Crippler
Posts: 729 |
posted 10-01-2000 05:46 PM
Gamecube is going to kill the competetion. Once its out all playstation 2's will stop selling because the real game machine came out 
NOT! Kill Pickachu - Kill Nintendo ! [This message has been edited by Crippler (edited 10-01-2000).]
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thy_toothpick
Senior Member Posts: 582 |
posted 10-01-2000 06:02 PM
quote: Nintendo has always focused on what it does best - making video games, and this generation will be no different. Besides, Nintendo is giving consumers the choice between DVD plyback, or not. Oh, and how is the dc a do-it-all console?
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Living-In-Clip
Senior Member Posts: 333 |
posted 10-01-2000 06:13 PM
Let me get this straight. Your throwing a hissy fit over a techincal Demo?... Nintendo Power? Biased? What do you expect?!? And some of us could care less if it came with a DVD player. By the time it comes out DVD players will pretty much be in most households. The prices have dropped on them. Not to mention most DECENT computers come with a DVD player. quote: "Genesis Does what Nintendon't".. 
[This message has been edited by Living-In-Clip (edited 10-01-2000).]
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thy_toothpick
Senior Member Posts: 582 |
posted 10-01-2000 06:16 PM
"Genesis does what Nintendon't "
Man, I can't wait for these next generation systems to come out... prepare for the next golden age of gaming.
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undertaker2k
Junior Member Posts: 6 |
posted 10-01-2000 06:27 PM
Has anyone heard more about that story in which they stated that Nintendo and Sega were going to make a video games for each others systems? I though that was strange and wasn't going to happen but I haven't heard anything more about it. ------------------
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SWEETLEAF
Member Posts: 157 |
posted 10-01-2000 06:34 PM
Actually I didn't say the lack makes it more appealing to kids I said the addition of that feature makes it more appealing to older crowd. My reasoning on DC is also a do it all is due to the fact that I have seen the prototype dvd add on for the DC. And since everyone says that PS2 is a do it all due to the fact that it plays dvd. And where did you see that dvd playback may be an option for Gamecube. From an article I have infront of me Gameweek 9.4.00 I quote "The Nintendo GameCube will not use a DVD-ROM as previously speculated, but instead, Nintendo has managed to put all game data, that's 1.5 gigabytes, onto a condensed disc that is 8 cm in diameter. To give you a size comparison, the original Mario 64 was 8 megabytes. The new disc media is 190 times that. the disc is small enough to fit in your pocket, again, showing Nintendo's emphasis on ease of use and functionability." That's the only one I can back up In my opinion I feel that the Dreamcast too appeals to the young as well as the older. Which I think of course is a good thing and the price range has always been a plus to help reach out to the younger gamers. I love Playstation2 as all know but I must admit the appeal is to the older market at least at this time.By the way thanks for arguing with me without bashing me. I am sure alot more peolpe would say things if they weren't afraid of getting bashed (of course that could be a bad thing too)
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SWEETLEAF
Member Posts: 157 |
posted 10-01-2000 06:43 PM
Oh...I feel I should print the end of the article "It will be released in the U>S in October 2001. The price has not been set but you can bet since it doesn't play DVD's and it is a pure dedicated game machine, the price is going to be very reasonable" ------------------
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corniac
Member Posts: 110 |
posted 10-01-2000 06:44 PM
My advice to you is not to get bent out of shape by anouncements like that.
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thy_toothpick
Senior Member Posts: 582 |
posted 10-01-2000 06:50 PM
I guess I should clarify myself. When i said, "Besides, Nintendo is giving consumers the choice between DVD plyback, or not.", I meant that consumers could buy the Nintendo Gamecube or the Panasonic DVD player/NGC. Thats what I meant. lack of DVD on NGC/addition of DVD on Ps2... same thing. The DVD player prototype for the DC... hmm... its an option, though. Its not internal like the Xbox or ps2. "And since everyone says that PS2 is a do it all due to the fact that it plays dvd." ... and cd's. "I love Playstation2 as all know but I must admit the appeal is to the older market at least at this time." ... The ps2, with its variety of games, should be appealing to all ages - not just to the older market.
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OHMYGOD
Member Posts: 127 |
posted 10-01-2000 06:56 PM
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SWEETLEAF
Member Posts: 157 |
posted 10-01-2000 06:56 PM
Yes.Actually I don't understand why the DC dvd player is called an add on (in the article) it looks like a stand alone as far as I could tell. The games may be appealing to all ages but I think you must admit (or maybe not) that the price is not. I think more parents shopping for children who are not familiar with all the details will lean towards the cheaper consoles especially now that the systems that have been out longer have great games that are much more reasonable. Hey maybe the PSONE will be a hit this X-mas. I never even thought about that for the X-mas season. I read that Gamecube will be online accessable too. Does anyone know if it will have that capability out of the box or if it will be an add on? ------------------
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thy_toothpick
Senior Member Posts: 582 |
posted 10-01-2000 07:43 PM
thats true... the price is an obstacle. If that would happen, the psx *might* be a hit, but I'd think that they'd go with the old psx or the N64 (pokemon...). This is one of the NGC's advantages - affordable price target. Anyways, I don't think that the NGC will come connected. I think that they said that the modem/broadband adapter will be available at launch, but won't be packaged in.
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SyxxKorn
Member Posts: 68 |
posted 10-01-2000 07:46 PM
Personally I have nothing against Nintendo. ------------------ "Absence makes the heart grow fonder" :bounce:
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thy_toothpick
Senior Member Posts: 582 |
posted 10-01-2000 07:50 PM
thats nice to know...
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JC_Rohan
Junior Member Posts: 11 |
posted 10-02-2000 05:46 AM "Sorry, Sony - but Nintendo blew the ducky outta the watta" - Sony Source
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CPLesane
Member Posts: 162 |
posted 10-02-2000 06:02 AM
will the ethernet card be available an the 26th...? ------------------
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Jumpman
Senior Member Posts: 582 |
posted 10-02-2000 06:54 AM
NP magazine is a Nintendo magazine...What the **** do you expect them to say? What they are saying is NGC is did a good job making a first impression with their systems(spaceworld demos). I kind of think thats true. But Nintendo certainly ins't pathetic.
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Dajo4
Senior Member Posts: 331 |
posted 10-02-2000 07:03 AM
quote: You don't know your ass from a hole in the ground son. Wake up and smell the coffee, obviously NINKIDIO is just trying to win the diehard fans over with this obvious pathetic tactic. Win will they learn ------------------
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Jumpman
Senior Member Posts: 582 |
posted 10-02-2000 03:00 PM
Its a Nintendo magazine you ****. I said I would expect them to hype up everything as much as they can. Jeez.
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Squigy
Junior Member Posts: 11 |
posted 10-02-2000 06:00 PM
everyone here is talking about prices and add-ons and hype and all the competition. I would like to pose some questions and opinions based on my own personal views. For one, the "do it all machine" thing, for me I would rather pay $300 for a console and a dvd player than to buy a $150 for just a console and then another for an add on dvd player or seprate dvd player all together. I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't have all the space in the world and it is a lot less space consuming to have it all in one package. But that's just me. Another thing, think of all the elder game consoles. If I recall properly from my own memory, add-ons where in a sense an attempt to save the system. For example, if anyone can remember the Turbo Grafx, I personally loved that system, but in its last days they put out a cd add-on to try and save the system, total failure. And next, the Sega Genesis. Remeber the Sega CD, put out in its later years to save it from extermination. And as for Nintendo, I don't ever recall an add-on other than the DD that was cancelled, or as far as I heard it was cancelled. The thing is that consumers really don't want to buy add-ons, and that they would in most cases buy a newer, better system than buy something that in a sense just boosts the abilities of the old system. Now I know that an add on dvd player isn't really a gaming add-on as it is an entertainment add-on, but lets also remember that PS2 games will be done in dvd format. And think of the advantages that will provide. So if Sega is going to use the dvd add-on for the games, then you end up with a system that takes up more space and with 2 disc players on it. I haven't seen what the thing looks like so this is just what I'm assuming, so don't bash me for this. Now, in response to what this thread was originally started on, now who really cares what demos they show at the "big game showoff" expos, if you see what they show, impressed with what the system can do and handle, then there job is done. who cares if it's a rubber ducky or a mouse trap. it may be stupid, but what they are trying to do is to show off what their system can do and at the same time impress you and blow your mind. think about it. would you buy a system that didn't impress you, or make you think, "Damn, this is what the game looks like? WOW!" If every thing you knew about consoles and what what you know now was taken away, like your memory of consoles was erased and two different systems where placed in front of you, one the Atari 2600, and two the PS2, and you saw what each could do, really, which one do you think you would buy, regardless of price.
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Squigy
Junior Member Posts: 11 |
posted 10-02-2000 07:22 PM
I forgot to add one little detail. Ever wanted to play your old NES, SNES, or Sega games without having to change consoles or try and find a console that wasn't broken and cheap(that's my case)? Problems solved with the ps2, very convineit(<--sp, sorry) and one thing I love about it.
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Docwiz
Member Posts: 293 |
posted 10-02-2000 07:27 PM
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Not only that, but Panasonic is offering a Nintendo system with a DVD player, so that just expands their market and because of that it does sound hypocritical to me.
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Phill
Posts: 1045 |
posted 10-02-2000 07:44 PM Nintendo wants their new system to just play games. Now that is something which could make or brake the GameCube. What with everyone else connecting to web based technology and what have you. I guess we'll just have to wait and see if Nintendo have made the right moves. ------------------ [This message has been edited by Phill (edited 10-02-2000).]
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thy_toothpick
Senior Member Posts: 582 |
posted 10-02-2000 07:46 PM
Docwiz: The Nintendo GameCube is a gaming console - pure and simple. Nintendo is making this. The thing panasonic is offering is a DVD player that plays NGC games. Panasonic (matsushita) is making this. Theres a big diff. Anyways, If you go to any Nintendo site, you'd know that those games (most) are in development. (Metroid, Wave Race, Luigi's Mansion/Mario 128, etc... ) Nintendo said that they were just demo's, but check out places like IGN (this is old stuff, so you'd have to look to the archives) and you'll find that most of those games ARE in development and are real games. Thats fine what the Xbox is and isn't. I don't really care, and I don't go to Xbox webs. The fact is is that it can play DVD movies. Thats what I was basing it off of. And I'm not doubting what the Xbox's focus is, but that is coming from MS's team. And the comments (which just happen to be in Nintendo's official magazine) is just pr crap. All companies do this - its called hype, its called making your product sound better than the competitions. Though I do agree that the tech demo's show off the system's capabilities, which would you rather see: (truthfully) 1. A rubber ducky floating around I think people were a lot more excited over the NGC's tech demo's that showed Wave Race, Luigi's Mansion, Metroid, etc... than rubber duckies and butterflies.
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