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WAZZZZZUP
 Member Posts: 124 |
 posted 09-30-2000 03:40 AM      
http://ps2.ign.com/news/25796.html Its very nice quality, but I think that the graphics are wayyyy too PC, Doom graphics are better than that, lol. The movie is NOT AAed, I don't think it would look that much better with AA in it anywayz.
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ddaryl
Posts: 1638 |
posted 09-30-2000 06:10 AM
Can someone please explain to me the difference between PC graphics and Console graphics, and why PC graphics are bad ? When I watch the SUmmmoner movies I see a videogame.
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Waspman
Member Posts: 209 |
posted 09-30-2000 06:24 AM
videogames.com have the intro movie where Orenian Army ransacked Joseph village..this one is realistic..you should check that out!
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Waspman
Member Posts: 209 |
posted 09-30-2000 06:54 AM
All i can say is that i want PC games like Rogue Spear to be on the ps2 and don't forget the combat flight sim like Super Flanker,F16 versus Mig29 and Jetfighter.
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WAZZZZZUP
Member Posts: 124 |
posted 09-30-2000 01:42 PM
No no, I didn't say that PC graphics are bad, if you look at the PS2 other games, they are not so blocky. Did you see Joe's arm? It looks like a plant. I am not like a fanboy or anything, I AM getting a PS2 on launch (and with Summoner too). Haha spelt launch wrong, probably thinking of lunch. [This message has been edited by WAZZZZZUP (edited 09-30-2000).]
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ddaryl
Posts: 1638 |
posted 09-30-2000 02:20 PM
Reasons why Summoner looks like a "PC Game" Volition is a PC developer. They've never developed on a console ever before. The PS2 is there 1st consoel attempt. Not bad IMO Volition is also developing this game for the PC, so the models are basically the same with few added polygons. I'm getting it too, it sounds like a fun RPG to start with on the PS2. also there are a ton of cool gameplay ovies out there that show off some cool things. goto http://summoner.volitionwatch.com/ for a bunch of downloads, as well as gamespot, IGN, and Daily radar [This message has been edited by ddaryl (edited 09-30-2000).]
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WAZZZZZUP
Member Posts: 124 |
posted 09-30-2000 02:33 PM
Yeah I really don't care for the graphics that much cause, its much better than any Playstation game I have played (graphics wise), but its nice to have a little realism ya know?
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Cronus
Member Posts: 121 |
posted 09-30-2000 09:56 PM
ok, imnot trying to start a riot here or anything, but is it just me or was that new summoner trailer a major jag-fest? dont get me wrong, im getting a PS2 with summoner and only summoner on launch, but now im a bit concerned... those gfx just....werent... good.. and input or answers? =\
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ddaryl
Posts: 1638 |
posted 09-30-2000 09:58 PM
well I don't know what trailer you are looking at but I've got about 20- 30 mb of movies on my harddrive at home and I do not know what your talking about with the referece to Jags are you sure your not watching an old movie before AA and High Rees mode. Go to DR or IGN and look for there latest gameplay movies, heck there's a cool earth elemental summons movie at Gamespot. The game has no jags, graphics may not be the ultimate but there are some cool looking spells and summons and alot of creatures and stuff,
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mdg
Member Posts: 187 |
posted 09-30-2000 10:02 PM
he's talking about that big one, thats actually an application. I think its that blurry, because it automatically goes full screen on my monitor. The PS2 game runs at half the resolution, compared to my monitor, resulting in some shimmering. Thats what I'm thinking, anyway. I have seen other movies, and it wasn't that bad.
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ddaryl
Posts: 1638 |
posted 09-30-2000 10:00 PM
actually DR doesn't have links to there latest movies goto
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Cronus
Member Posts: 121 |
posted 09-30-2000 10:09 PM
quote: Oh, whoops, didnt notice that when i first read the post... how do you KNOW its NOT AA'ed? (besides the fact that its MAJORLY jaggy...)
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Cronus
Member Posts: 121 |
posted 09-30-2000 10:13 PM
ddaryl, scroll up to the top of the thread, that 'WAAAZZZZZUP' guy posted the link
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ddaryl
Posts: 1638 |
posted 09-30-2000 10:11 PM
quote: actually volitionwatch doesn't have any new movies either, IGN has some QUicktime gameplay movies and gamespot. and there are no jags
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Waspman
Member Posts: 209 |
posted 09-30-2000 10:14 PM
If you want to see fast,quality Summoner movie....try www.gamefan.com and search for Summoner video there. THere is no jaggies and the game seems fun...trust me.
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ddaryl
Posts: 1638 |
posted 09-30-2000 10:47 PM
DUDES that new Bink file trailer sucks ass on my work PC. The game looks much much better then this. If you guys really want to see the game in action do find an alternate movie to judge it by.
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Soul Reaver
Posts: 758 |
posted 09-30-2000 10:54 PM
PC GFX and Console GFX... Me no understand so me act like retard. 
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***Peter Moore Comments on PS2 Shortages*** "It seems that Sega will be doing its best to turn the upcoming war into a Genesis vs SNES thang." True story... [This message has been edited by Soul Reaver (edited 09-30-2000).]
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Waspman
Member Posts: 209 |
posted 09-30-2000 11:00 PM
Hi daryl ,what a small world ...i saw you in summoner's forum..
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ddaryl
Posts: 1638 |
posted 09-30-2000 10:56 PM
quote: yes this is home
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kaji
Member Posts: 193 |
posted 09-30-2000 11:02 PM
And why isn't the trailer AAed I think the guys at volition should write a book on how to NOT make a good first impression. On a lighter note, am I the only one wondering why other sites dont use the bink player for their vids?? it kicks ass!! [This message has been edited by kaji (edited 09-30-2000).]
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ddaryl
Posts: 1638 |
posted 09-30-2000 11:06 PM
quote: Dude the trailer is AA'd its the Bink Player and the resolution thats screwed up somewhere. I'm not sure why, but you know Volition and THQ didn't release a game trailer without AA after implementing it fully inot a 95% completed game http://promo.blockbuster.com/ps2/media/summoner_playstation2.mov [This message has been edited by ddaryl (edited 10-01-2000).]
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WAZZZZZUP
Member Posts: 124 |
posted 10-01-2000 03:46 AM
The Binks form is like the best kind of movie (its like the game running on your computer), all the MPGs and MOVs are not good to judge game graphics cause they are soo small, if you see a little jaggie on the MOVs or MPGs, its gonna look bigger on TV. I doubt that the Summoner movie has AA cause it jaggie like hell, all the building and stuff have jaggies everywheres.
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PrimalScream
Member Posts: 168 |
posted 10-01-2000 07:39 AM
The reason for it having PC graphics is because it was originally only intended for the PC... Then they ported the code to the PS2, that's why the early pics of it looked like complete crap...
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ddaryl
Posts: 1638 |
posted 10-01-2000 08:23 PM
quote: Well this particular Bink file looks like shit. I have at least 20mb and probably near 30 mbs of Mpegs, and .mov's on my PC and the game is pretty darn smooth. There is no way in hell the game looks like that Bink file. If it does then Volition would be laughed out of the business forever, and I doubt SOny would even give it a go for launch for obvious quality reasons so I completely disagree with your comment about this game being jaggie as hell. Also numerous hands on reviews from IGN, Daily Radar, Planet PS2 and Gamespot all say the game looks great
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bd
Member Posts: 60 |
posted 10-01-2000 09:11 PM 1.17Gb of movies related to PS2 games. Note that movies of the games will not always do them justice, expect artifacts to arise from the compression methods they use and the fact that the resolution is rarely a 1:1 relative to the real output of the machine. -bd
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WAZZZZZUP
Member Posts: 124 |
posted 10-02-2000 01:27 AM
quote: Well, I dunno, but its really really good quality on my computer (except for the major major jaggies), its like a computer game running on my PC. I dunno, but thats as good as a downloaded movie gets. Its like TV commercial quality, it looks like a commercial too. In the movie, when that person with the cape wakes up the stairs, that looks SOOOOO UNREAL, its like the person just glided up the stairs.
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Cronus
Member Posts: 121 |
posted 10-02-2000 09:49 AM
 if summoner (the ONLY game i can afford at launch) looks that that when i get it, then im gonna cry!!!!!!!!!!!!
[This message has been edited by Cronus (edited 10-02-2000).]
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Waspman
Member Posts: 209 |
posted 10-02-2000 10:05 AM
quote: Its gonna be a surprise trust me...the game is already looking good on april see www.gamefan.com and search Summoner movie...yet the developers still keep improving on the graphics....
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sys203
Senior Member Posts: 444 |
posted 10-02-2000 11:24 AM
After seeing the Movies and Screen shots, I feel that this game is not looking to good. I think the graphics are very bland, very "pc" like. I would have thought that they would be less rigged, not jaggie, but more like 'unnatural' looking. I don't known I just feel the graphics look a little rough. Now don't get me wrong I think the ps2 will be great but I don't see this title being as good as everyone thinks it will be.
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ddaryl
Posts: 1638 |
posted 10-02-2000 01:38 PM
Well I think the title will play great and look pretty darn good. Its a crappy capture, since the signal for the game requires a TV for interlacing horizontal lines, a PC cannot translate that signal properly, Anyway I had a chat with Volition about this on there forum. I explained to them and a few others the damage of allowing crappy video captures to circle the net. Here is the link to the thread, http://vbb.volition-inc.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000308.html
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Vertical694
Senior Member Posts: 870 |
posted 10-02-2000 02:07 PM
I have seen the movies of this game at IGN and while the poly-count is low and the character model aren't that great the game does have nice textures.
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Chump_change
Junior Member Posts: 1 |
posted 10-02-2000 02:31 PM
quote: Actually, Volition developed Descent 1 and 2 on the PSX back in the day. The lead PS2 programmer on Summoner also has previous console experience. quote: The PS2 version is shipping before the PC version. I doubt they are building all of their content on the PC and "porting" it to the PS2. I bet what you are noticing is the game is much more realistic in appearance than most console RPGs. All of the console RPGs I've played have exagerated characters and cartoony color schemes and environments. I'm glad somebody is developing a serious, realistic RPG for the console.
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Wegabush
Member Posts: 78 |
posted 10-02-2000 02:41 PM
hkghjkg ------------------
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Wegabush
Member Posts: 78 |
posted 10-02-2000 02:44 PM
summoner will be my first rpg ------------------
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ddaryl
Posts: 1638 |
posted 10-02-2000 02:48 PM
I agree, but i didn't know descent was on the PSX and But I'm sure the PC and PS2 games are to remain similiar in looks, the artists designed characters and enviiroments which will be ported over to the PC version with some added featues like online and the PC version is scheduled for early 2001 release, so I'm thinking they didn't have the finacial resources to make seperate charater models for the PS2 and PC. The polygon count in the Summoner is low. It does have alot of animations, and spells, but the SUmmoner comes up short in the polygon capabilities, well under what the PS2 is capable of. I still think the game will look pretty good and play just the same, Graphics are only a part of the equation for me, playing a fun RPG is all I'm looking forward too.
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